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babd8 No.184

First time poster here. I'd like to have your opinions on the "what to do in real life" question. I wasn't around for the glory days of the National Alliance or the NSWPP and it seems that in 2016 every National Socialist group is just a shell of what it once was. Let me make it clear that i am not trying to promote any divisions between people who are in favor of this or that group, i just want to know what other national socialists think about the "real life" national socialist groups. We have had a big surge in online NS but it hasn't (to my knowledge) translated into a well thought out plan of action to actually do something productive.

c8648 No.185

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>>184
Discerning what is and what is not a honeypot is a bit of a problem. I'm not sure that there is an honest-to-god national socialist organization currently operating in the west.

We need to be just as active in the real world as we are online, though. Try to be a respectable individual, work hard, improve yourself. And try to red-pill friends and family. Be careful about it, but don't allow yourself to be completely immobilized with fear. It won't be easy.

722ec No.188

>>184
This kind of thread should go in /phil/ fyi, but it's fine here for now.

Anyways, the best thing to do is to just redpill as many people as you can, maybe send them to some good websites. You're unfortunately pretty much right, all the IRL groups seem to be honeypots.

babd8 No.190

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>>185
This is something that i think about every day and yet i never find a good answer. I can sit and read Rosenberg and Evola and listen to GLR speeches from the 60s for the rest of my life, but if it never translates into effective political action it is just all wasted time and effort like some cruel kind of a joke. Also lets say for example i managed to convince even 5 of my close friends and family that NS is the correct path for the European man to take, what do i even say when they ask "well that sounds great, what do we do?".

It seems to me that without any sort of political or financial power we are like a tiger without claws. Until we have an organization that can unite the splintered factions of american NS, we will be constantly spinning our tires like we are now until it is too late.

e453e No.237

The problem of translating the ns movement from online to flesh has also been on my mind. We have a certain amount of momentum from the election and from current events that needs to be translated into something useful. If we let the momentum fade, we loose everything. Further, we have multiple challenges in this translation:

>> regular people have been trained to hate anything percieved as "nazi"

>> irl organizations are all pozzed D&C honeypots
>> regular people are afraid of some of the truths we speak
>> we have livelyhoods at risk by being publicly identified as nazis

I have a possible solution. But, it would be difficult and would mean working outside of the internet.

My solution is that we use a cell based organisation method for building up support for our movement from within the public. Under this approch, each of us would identify two people whom we trust with our safety AND are receptive to converting to our cause. We would then redpill and convert them to the cause. This forms the basis for each of our local cells. We must remain vigilent to refrain from identifying our ideology or movement using any term that would identify use as what we are until it is too late. Our local cells would be support for us in times of political action, venting/real talk, and social time. We stand by our own.

If the redpilling takes, we further the chain by getting them to do the same as we did for them. Only, we make sure that whomever they work on converting is not a part of our own immediate social groups. This does three things: it creates a pattern for continually expanding influence, it makes sure we do not know who else is being converted to the cause (thereby protecting us), and it leaves our immediate social circle open to the next phase: soft redpill.

If we were to push this ideological agenda, we would be able to create a quiet and large cardre of unconnected individuals working toward one agenda. This would allow the soft redpilling of the hard target bluepillers in our immediate social circles by ensuring there are more of us attempting to spread the truth.

By using the cell structure, we are able to decentralize our efforts and propagate more naturally through society. If we chose to take a more militant approach, we could use Heinlein's approach to cell organization to protect us from state adversaries (The Moon is a Harsh Mistress). Eventually, our individual networks should begin to link up and overlap.

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e453e No.238

All of this is not enough though. To make this work, we must do our utmost to exemplify the values we seek to make the norm in society: Hard work, strong families, celibacy, strong faith (in whatever), community involvement, self mastery, etc... We must provide the model for those we seek to convert.

We must invite those we wish to convert to our lives. Verify that they are of sound mind, strong values, and seeking purpose. We must refuse to associate with degenerates and the mentally unstable. We must show our converts what is good for personal life, as we speak of the good of society. Strong family and social bonds will make this work. Invite them to community functions, dinner with your family, yard work at your home, offer to help them with their own work and projects or to join them for working out regularly. We have to build up these social connections to help make our message stick. Thankfully, most of this will already be in place since these people we are targeting are our friends.

Many of us are NEETs, but I do not think that means most are. Many of us already blend in with society very well.

The primary political agenda now (imo) is to build up a white nationalist awareness. White christians built this country. Remember that. Now, athiests and forigners are succeeding in destroying the work of our ancestors. We've earned the right to this clay by the blood our people have lost and by those we've buried in it.

THIS is how we could not only spread the message, but WIN.

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722ec No.239

>>237
Excellent post. I just want to say we were very lucky that the Jews vilified the "Nazis" but not the national socialists. I could go up to any random person and say "I'm a national socialist" and they'll either not care or call me a dirty commie which can be fixed with some simple explanation If someone already knows about national socialism, then they're usually supportive of it for some odd reason :^)

961e5 No.261

>>184
you should set up "godemperor" meetups, so you always have plausible-deniability that you're not an extremist, just a GOP group making a joke about president trump

d423e No.279

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>>184
Just live a good honest life, with National Socialist standards. Try red pilling people the best you can and practice argumentation. Start making strong tides with your friends and family. Show them that you are still human. I just don't think anons realize how powerful living by example really is. Find a good wife or woman, and have as many kids as you can support physically and mentally. As for getting or starting a National Socialist group, you don't have to come out and flat out say it. I know someone on the West Coast of fucking Canada (Which I am apart of) who has started a National Conservative Party and already has 100 strong interested and well off members. Just stop fucking spazing out and being shit teen larpers for muh stupid frog shit.

44018 No.426

>>184
Maybe this will give some ideas.

http://northwestfront.org/2016/08/radio-free-northwest-august-11th-2016/

http://northwestfront.org/2016/09/radio-free-northwest-september-29th-2016/

http://northwestfront.org/2016/11/radio-free-northwest-november-24th-2016/

e9bb6 No.435

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the irl question must be resolved in steps. Your first priority is to fashion your image to match your ideals. There's no point in complaining about "muh degenerate homosexuality" if you still masturbate to lesbian porn. Get fit, get social, get to the point where Hitler would be proud, and develop your social life to the point where you have to turn down invites to meals/hang out/whatever.
Once you have developed a positive social image, you can use your status to influence other people. For example, you won't lose any respectability by scoffing and dismissing a leftist's opinion, or dropping a slutshaming comment about some mutual acquaintance. If you keep it short and sweet, you'll catch people's attention and curiosity. Don't try infodumping or redpilling others directly: people don't like being lectured, or told they are wrong. If you want to redpill someone in particular, you have to first meet them where they are. This is not about you, but them. I personally like to push girls away from liberalism into socialism, and then encourage them to distrust elites and globalism. It's remarkably easy if you leverage their disgust with the war industry and imperialism. Before you know it you are dealing with someone who now feels alienated with establishment politics, and will be a lot more willing to accept the political positions you offer.
Of course, this only one of the million of ways to do it. Get creative, leverage your attractiveness. Living is fun, even in a world like ours.
If you want to make a difference more directly, clean up your internet presence and go into gov work. Work as a teacher, lawyer, mayor, cop: whatever fits best with your education and persuasion. Shifting public opinion is only as useful and good as the people can can be voted into power. If you keep your mouth shut and make your philosophy sing through your actions, there will be no need to fight the stigma that has been orchestrated against us.



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